Sunday, July 08, 2007

Dumb Fuckers

This is an open letter to all the UK/Scotland terrorists and their ilk:

Dumb fuckers!! WTF were you thinking? Sardar shabashi dega?? That you'll go straight to heaven?? Man! Not only did you fuck yourselves, you've got the eternal curse from every foreign visa aspiring Muslim who actually wants to do well in life. And just when I was beginning to realise that as Indian Muslims, we are doing pretty well upholding our credentials as peaceful folk, you had to go and fuck it all up!! You imbeciles don't even know what Jihad means.. wait.. I think you used the Oxford dictionary for the meaning. You see, the Oxford dictionary is for the meaning of words like 'cricket'.. 'Jihad' is not even an English word! Go frikkin read the Quran to know what jihad is first before defaming your religion so.. idiots! Jihad is not a war against non-believers, it is the act of fighting back when your religious rights are oppressed beyond tolerance.

See here for an excellent explanation of what Jihad means.
You weren't part of the armies attacked by the crusaders. You weren't in Iraq where your family would have been blown to pudding. You weren't in Lebanon where you wouldn't know if your roof would be torn apart the next second. Heck you weren't even in the country that banned Headscarves! You had everything going for you.. I mean wife, kids, parents, well to do families.. you bastards threw it all away! And for what?

Go hang yourselves!

PS: I know I had promised here and here that I would refrain from commenting on Religion. But as Al Pacino says, "Just when I want to walk out, they pull me back in!"

PS2: Comments are welcome as long as they come within the scope of a healthy arguments. Death threats will be deleted for obvious reasons.

PS3: Remember, I condemn attacks on innocents. Does not mean I'm not a Muslim. Duh.

51 comments:

Smokin Joe said...

Shit Happens.. Not much that you can do about it, and not much that it should matter!

FifthBeatle said...

Quite true.. Even though I'm not Muslim, I still viewed it this way--it hurts us just being Indian when such a thing happens.

Trying to understand why people might do such a thing is fruitless. They are not rational when they make such decisions.

Mohan said...

So you are saying they shouldn't have done this only because they weren't in Iraq or Lebanon and they weren't persecuted. But what if they identify themselves with those victims in Iraq and feel it is their duty to rise up in support of those unfortunate victims who are suffering injustice all the way from Palestine to Afghanistan? I mean, isn't it the standard propaganda to recruit volunteers for this global jihad?

Lalbadshah said...

@varun: Yeah shit happens. Not much we can do about it. But much of it does matter.

@arnold: It is imperative that we understand. It is the only way we can stop them.

@mohan: If they feel that they have to rise in support of the persecuted, they have to engage with the persecutors directly and not with civilians. Codes of war such as not attacking the innocent hold across regions and religion. This is where the fault lies: The propaganda is spread in such a way that the entire white race is blamed for the suffering of Muslims and hence each one of them is told to be the enemy. This kind of ideology would obviously lead to collective hatred which is what we see.

libertarian said...

lalbadshah: I hear you. Entertaining rant. What were these morons thinking?

Sudeep Goyal said...

I came to your site from http://diggindianews.com.... an interesting article Man.

Sudeep

Anonymous said...

While I was following the news on BBC/CNN, my curiosity about Islam increased and finally I landed herehttp://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/why_I_left_Islam.htm and the online Quran to cross check Ali Sina's allegations.
Swear, I had never read anything as fantastic as this..
I guess it's the time to tell the jihadi Indian muslim to stop the f#$%ing shit and not spoil others' chances to going to the West.

Anonymous said...

For the interested folks, here is the link
http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/why_I_left_Islam.htm

Lalbadshah said...

@libertarian: Wish I knew.

@sudeep goyal: Thanks.

@anonymous: That link could start some dangerous arguments. For example, there are entire websites chronicling the accounts of hundreds people who left Christianity. A simple google search would tell you. The same holds for Hinduism and other major religions. It is all a matter of individual beliefs and interpretation.

I will keep your comment here unless it generates unreasonable amount of hostility here.

Anonymous said...

WOW, great topic and very daring too take a stand apart from what your other co-religonist want you too believe. Kudos!

BTW... I followed this link from "instapundit" website. I'm thinking of putting this site in my favorite files and taking some time to go through & browse around your site.

Best regards,

J.P.

Steverino said...

Speaking as an American from Washington, DC, I wholeheartedly agree: The Glasgow car bombers are dumb f*s. I disagree that anybody here in America sees this as a strike against Indians. We have Indians everywhere, in college and work. We've pretty much grown up with them. They're wonderful people. Nobody thinks badly about them.

Everyone recognizes this Glasgow attack as yet another expression of Muslim hatred for non-Muslims. I'm very pleased to read your vehement condemnation of these Muslim terrorists, but quite frankly I don't see enough Muslim condemnation of terror, at best a thin trickle. I don't believe Muslims oppose terror, but rather passively support it. I'm sorry to say I think you're in the minority.

A couple years ago, a Muslim lawyer in Washington, DC organized a rally against Islamic terrorism here on Freedom Plaza. Only fifty Muslims showed up. The Muslim organizations all condemned him for it. He said the local mosques did not support him because they shared the goal of the terrorists to establish a Sharia state in America.

A year ago, five thousand Muslims rallied for Hezbollah in Lafayette Park, across from the White House. That's the Hezbollah which claims its advantage over the West is that it loves death while the West loves life. That's about as perfectly evil a mission statement as you can get. And masses of Muslims enthusiastically support it. We are all Hezbollah, they said.

When five thousand Muslims turn out to support a terrorist organization while only fifty turn out to oppose terror, that tells me that Muslims support terror one hundred to one.

I hope that your opposition to Muslim terrorists catches on among Muslims, but it's pretty clear that most Muslims hate the West and want to destroy it, even as they beg for visas to enter it for a better life. We don't need them coming to America. There are plenty of Hindu Indians who will make better immigrants and citizens, friends and neighbors.

Anonymous said...

Lal Badshah,
you have just achieved an Instalanche (An Avalanche of people clicking on your blog, because Instapundit-The Blogfather- linked you).

And I agree with you. I live in US and have always proudly told my American friends that they will never see a terrorist coming out of India. I don't feel proud anymore.

Lalbadshah said...

@j.p: Thanks! But you must know that a huge majority of my "co-religionists" agree with me.

@tantor: I know that although a majority of muslims agree with me, few will come out in the open about it. But your blog suggests that you have rather rigid ideas about Islam with exposure to only a few muslims hence I'l refrain from commenting from that.

@tushar d: Instalanche I did get. As many hits as of now today than three regular months put together!! Its madness!

Steverino said...

Lalbadshah: "I know that although a majority of muslims agree with me, few will come out in the open about it. But your blog suggests that you have rather rigid ideas about Islam with exposure to only a few muslims hence I'l refrain from commenting from that."

I had no opinion on Islam until 8:46 AM, Tuesday, Sep 11, 2001. The worldwide celebration of Muslims of that atrocity does not persuade me that the majority of Muslims are against terror. The majority of Muslims I see make excuses for terrorists or wildly implausible denials. For example, one British imam denies the Glasgow attack was a terror attack at all. He says that the terrorists were actually petrol dealers who accidently crashed into the airport terminal.

If there are Muslims other than you who condemn Islamic terror, they lack the courage of their convictions. Muslim fanatics are willing to fight and die for their murderous and intolerant version of Islam. Where are the mythical moderate Muslims who are willing to fight and die for a peaceful and tolerant Islam? I don't see many and those few are constantly threatened with ostracism, violence, and death by the majority.

Here in Washington, the local Islamic school taught its elementary and high school students that it was OK to hurt infidels and steal from them, among other hateful things. Two of its administrators were arrested for terrorism. One of its graduates was arrested for plotting to kill the president.

The Saudi embassy here hands out tourist brochures that remind Muslim tourists here that it is their religious duty to hate America and that democracy is blasphemy.

The pillars of Mina have born the legend "America" or "Death To America" the last three years, if not more. My interpretation of that is that Islam has made America it's Satan and incorporated its destruction into its doctrine and sacred rituals. If Islam wants to destroy my country and me, why would I respect that or want its devotees to immigrate to America where they can carry that doctrine out?

It is this objective behavior which places Islam and Muslims in disrepute. Come to America and build hospitals and universities like the other religions instead of bombs and terror cells and the reputation of Muslims will improve and they will be welcome. Muslims must give up their war on the world to be accepted.

As it is now, anywhere that Muslims border non-Muslims, they make war on their neighbors. Anywhere Muslims settle in the non-Muslim world, they make war on their hosts. Belligerent and bloody Muslim imperialism makes Muslims unwelcome the world over and is building the political will to oppose further Muslim encroachment.

Lalbadshah said...

@tantor: I speak on behalf of Islam and not of every Muslim. I agree with your points though. Muslims really need to get their PR act together. But you must understand that just as you generalise the acts of a few misguided ones as that of all Muslims, many muslims have this image of of the American policy of intruding unnecessarily in others affairs as being represented by every American citizen. Changes in understanding each other need to be done on both sides.

Muslim population over the world is over 1.5 billion. Thats about a fourth of human population. Taliban, Al Qaeda and other extremists form not even 1% of this population.

Don't you think it is a bit unfair to use the term 'Muslim' instead of 'extremists' in such contexts?

Yes I agree that a Majority of Muslim population seems to be in a state of silent apathy but I can assure you that inside, all of us tremble everytime we hear of some maniac defaming our religion.

Anonymous said...

less than 1% percent of 1.5 billionis still a hell of a lot of angry people.i believe the problem for the radical Muslim is their understanding that they can never defeat the power of western culture.must drive them crazy knowing no matter how hard they in the they lose.just using the internet as we are doing now to enter into a debate is testimony to that power.another example might be the "instalanche" you are enjoying. c.j.g. of eroticalee

M. Simon said...

I think it all depends on how you define innocents and what intolerable oppression is.

Anonymous said...

the above should read [no matter how hard they try in the end they lose]a question.why do we get so much traffic from Muslim countries?we are an erotic art blog.some might say a perfect example of the corruption of western culture. c.j.g. of eroticalee

M. Simon said...

Lalbadshah,

We must understand the Nazis. It is the only way we can stop them. Crap. Utter crap.

Every few decades Islam gets a new savior and wars ensue. This time the savior is a return to "the old time religion", the glory days of Mohammed the conquerer and a time when what he preached in terms of civil organization was an advance.

Civilization has come a ways since the 7th century. The "jihadis" want to take us back. Equal rights for women? Not in the jihadi trick book.

Do not meddle in the affairs of Westerners. They are slow to anger but utterly ruthless when aroused. Remember who dropped the bombs in the world's first atomic war?

Read Wretchard's three conjectures:

Wretchard's Three Conjectures

Kicked often enough an even a hibernating bear will wake up.

M. Simon said...

BTW not only have you got lanched.

You've been blogged:

Do Not Disturb Hibernating Bears

Anonymous said...

I was reading your open letter with admiration, until I came upon - "Go frikkin read the Quran to know what jihad is first before defaming your religion so."
Anybody who has read the Quran or the Hadiths objectively cannot help but notice that they are filled with crap, to put it mildly.

Anonymous said...

whatever the problem might be, people must realize that violence isn't a solution. If muslims, or for that matter any group feel they are being marginalized, or pushed to the wall, they must transcend it all through determination and hardwork and show that they too contribute greatly to the good of the society, that they form such an integral part of it that marginalizing them is meaningless.
kindly do not call me biased here, but when reservations were implemented strictly in tamil nadu, tamil brahmins felt marginalized. they were being denied land and government jobs. but then they pursued the education and private sectors more than they did before, as they were denied returns from the agriculture and public sectors. now tamil brahmins are well-known for their work, are flourishing everywhere except in Tamil Nadu, form an integral part of any Indian society abroad.. Why, wiki has an entry for Thames Iyers [Iyers in the UK].

Anonymous said...

I am responsible for the "Quran and Hadiths are filled with crap comment"
I should add here that the majority o f the religiosn are beyond belief and responsible for much evil.
But Islam just takes the cake.

a very smart dude once said that -

"all religions are not equal, some are much worse than others.."

Steverino said...

Lalbadshah: "I speak on behalf of Islam and not of every Muslim. I agree with your points though. Muslims really need to get their PR act together."

Lalbadshah, no amount of PR is going to smooth over acts of terror. After Sep 11, the Saudis hired a Washington PR agency which mounted a campaign of slick TV ads that touted Saudi Arabia as our "partner in the war against terror." However, when the terrorists were Saudis indoctrinated in Wahhabi state schools to hate America and their attack funded by Saudis, such a campaign simply came across as a bald-faced lie.

If Muslims behave well, there will be no need for a PR campaign. The Chinese and Hindu Indians don't need a PR campaign to convince us they mean us well. We know that by their acts.

Lalbadshah: "But you must understand that just as you generalise the acts of a few misguided ones as that of all Muslims, many muslims have this image of of the American policy of intruding unnecessarily in others affairs as being represented by every American citizen. Changes in understanding each other need to be done on both sides."

Americans don't want to rule the world. Muslims do. We'd be very happy to be left out of the world's quarrels but very often we are drawn into them. And much of the Muslim complaints about American intrusion address the products of our culture and commerce, which the fanatic Muslims find hold too much attraction for their world.

If Muslims truly want to understand America and the West better, they need to catch up. We freely allow Muslims to build mosques and practice their faith here. The same is not true of Muslims, who are intolerant of other religions and drive them out. The Saudis have built a big mosque here in Washington, yet no church is built in Riyadh. The Saudis built a giant mosque in Rome, yet no church is built in Mecca. Understanding between the umma and the West is blocked by Islam which does not reciprocate the tolerance of the West.

The Muslim world has a history of centuries of fatwas forbidding books or contact from the non-Muslim world. We have no such history and welcome information from everywhere in every form. We are an open society. The Muslim world is closed and insular. It needs to open up if it intends to understand the rest of the world.

Lalbadshah: "Muslim population over the world is over 1.5 billion. Thats about a fourth of human population. Taliban, Al Qaeda and other extremists form not even 1% of this population."

One tenth of one percent of 1.5 billion Muslims is 1.5 million terrorists. That's quite a lot of terrorists, isn't it? I might point out that Muslims have a near monopoly on terrorism in the world. That rate of terrorists in the Muslim population exceeds all the other populations in the world. And yours is a optimistic figure. Other observers estimate 10% of the Muslim population are radicalized.

Lalbadshah: "Don't you think it is a bit unfair to use the term 'Muslim' instead of 'extremists' in such contexts?"

No, I don't, when the general Muslim population does not condemn Islamic terrorism. As I pointed out earlier, when Muslims around the world celebrate the slaughter of Americans, that illustrates a wide spread extremist sentiment. Likewise, when Muslims run like madmen through the streets, burning buildings and killing people and venting their rage against fiberglas Ronald McDonalds in response to cartoons of Mohammed, that, too, demonstrates an extremist bent.

My reading of the Koran and hadith shows Islam to be an extremist religion. The terrorists are directly following the example of Mohammed. Skyjacking jumbo jets is the modern equivalent of Mohammed raiding camel caravans. Beheading hostages in snuff videos is the modern equivalent of Mohammed beheading the Quraysh tribe. The fatwa against Salman Rushdie and the assassination of Van Gogh follow the example of Mohammed assassinating his literary critics.

When Muslims reject this kind of violence inherent in Islam, I will reconsider labeling it as extreme.

Lalbadshah: "Yes I agree that a Majority of Muslim population seems to be in a state of silent apathy but I can assure you that inside, all of us tremble everytime we hear of some maniac defaming our religion."

Lalbadshah, the answer for moderate Muslims is to make the maniacs among them tremble, to refuse to cooperate with them, to inform on them to the authorities, to prosecute them for their crimes, to visit justice on their heads, and to condemn them in no uncertain terms.

peter jackson said...

Look, modern Muslims are in the same boat that white people in the United States were in in the 1950s. Then you had many ignorant, uneducated, backward rednecks supporting the oppression of black people in the US. At the fringes were honest-to-God redneck terrorists who lynched black people and blew up black churches to the horror of most American whites.

Finally, in the sixties, most of white America could no longer tolerate the assholes amongst them, quit apologizing for them, and passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. We sent troops to Arkansas and other places to protect the rights of black Americans. It was very controversial at the time.

Now it is no longer controversial. Today, the average white American would not hesitate to shoot a white redneck in the face to protect a black man from him, just as he would shoot any criminal to protect an innocent. This is the direction Muslims need to go. It is the only direction with a future. I wish you all the luck in the world. The future needs the creative talents of all people, including Muslims.

yours/
peter.

Anonymous said...

Yes lalbadshah, It would be hard to accept; but problem lies in koran and islam itself. You would find many arguments to counter this; but in your mind you know that this is the truth. For a change, why not try converting to any other religion (or just be without any religion) and motivate other muslims who are fed up with their religion to also convert out?

santosh said...

As far as I can remember, they (the 2-3 Indians allegedly involved) are only suspects. None is charged. Even if we were to believe that they did that act consciously, they should have realised about the repercussions to their family now if not the repercussions to fellow Indian muslims and fellow Indians in general. This makes me wonder - will it start a trend to defend oneself in the west now. 'Oh I am an Indian but not a muslim'. If they did it consciously, then they definitely qualify your labeling.

Unknown said...

I'll believe that the majority of Muslims are against the radicals amongst them when I start seeing universal condemnation for acts of barbarism. And no weasel words allowed, e.g. "They were wrong, but ...." Screw the "but". It was wrong or it wasn't. Which is it?

Steverino said...

santosh: "As far as I can remember, they (the 2-3 Indians allegedly involved) are only suspects. None is charged."

Interesting point, Santosh. Maybe they just happenned to lose their cell phones which happenned to be used as detonaters in two different car bombs in London and then just happenned to be in a jeep full of gas cans and propane cylinders rigged as a bomb that just happenned to crash through the front doors of the Glasgow airport and they accidently poured gas on the car and themselves and lit themselves on fire and then inadvertently slugged the cops and infidel passers-by while yelling "ALLAH AKBAR!"

Maybe it's all just a series of coincidences and hideous misunderstandings. I mean, who among us hasn't spontaneously combusted into a human fireball when passing through the baggage area of an airport terminal in our cars?

a psychiatrist who learned from veterans said...

Yeah. I enjoyed your insight and expression over visas. We were just, here in the US, see the blog Kesher Talk for instance, beginnng to wring our hands about the visa problem. The 'dumb fuckers' as you so elegantly put it have solved the problem; now those hands will ring and wring 'but the number you were dialing has been disconnected.'

Anonymous said...

Well.. I am a Hindu and one thing that I have always practised is Tolerance. I do my shit and others r free to theirs. But sorry to say the muslims somehow believe that theirs is the only sacred truth in this world and the rest of us are simple dumb fucks who can be dispensed cos we dont comply to your beliefs.
Fanatics in Hinduism are no less but its has always been on the open in retaliation against some opression.
Politicians r bound to take an opportunity of the same(and in the past some communal fights have been a creation of crooked politicians in India) but having 3 of my uncles as MLAs and one Uncle who was the ex Cabinet minister and the current sitting MP I can gurantee you that even the most crooked hindu or christian politician does not trust a Muslim politican. Of course all are in hand in gloves when it comes to swindling the public( as I have seen it with my own open eyes) I still know for a fact that Most indian politicans are vary of the Muslims as it happens to be the only community that can be easily instigated by foreign elements

Lalbadshah said...

There are way too many comments to answer individually. Hence I'll just say this:
My open letter was to those Indian Muslims who gave their lives for no apparent reason. They weren't a part of any apparent tragedy which would make them lose their mind.

But from the comments I can gather that even in general terms Muslims are a hated bunch who are considered to nurture dreams of world domination. All I can say is that this is indeed a sad state of affairs and I will, in the future try and drill some sense into a suicidal dumbass if I ever meet one.

But you must know that I, my family and all my Muslim friends I have spoken to so far have condemned this act.

And on the same note I urge you to condemn the thousands of innocent civilians being killed in Iraq and Lebanon. If Americans, condemn these acts, just as you ask me to condemn terrorism, most ill-will could be removed.

Catharsiz said...

@Abhijit

You say Hindu politicians do not trust Muslim politicians. What the hell kind of a statement is that? Every politician will cheat, mislead anybody to get votes. They will especially do this to Muslims. Keep them backward, fan fanaticism, give out prizes for more children born (UP), appease radical muslims - all to get votes. If there is an 'Islam' problem in India, it is because of traitorous Hindu politicians.

Lalbadshah said...

@ross: Yes I condemn it. Provided your definition of these barbarians match with mine.

libertarian said...

lalbadshah: take a chill pill. Just because a couple of nutjobs decide to go over the deep end doesn't warrant deep soul-searching by the rest of us (Indians). It's time to worry if it becomes a habit (like in Pakistan). Further, being coerced to condemn an act just because someone belongs to a certain religion is abhorrent. Like having to prove my Indian credentials just because I'm not Hindu. It's like being declared guilty until proven innocent. Screw that. That crap happens in Pakistan not in India - at least I hope not.

The idea of not getting visas as easily because these idiots decided to do their thing is much more painful.

Lalbadshah said...

@libertarian: I am not condemning it out of coercion. I just reiterated what I had stated in my earlier posts. (See links in the end of this post). Terrorism, as per my definition, must be condemned. It's the least a sensible Muslim can do.

Anonymous said...

Then what about quran 9:111

(all muslims must fight kill and die for allah, or they won't go to heaven. Apparently it's a "contract")

Lalbadshah said...

@anon: Don't quote out of context. Picking up lines from out of the blue can give whole new meanings to sentences.

cognizer said...

First of all, I want to appreciate you for coming forward to present a different perspective on how a Muslim thinks.

I am an Indian and have a quite a few Muslim friends. I know how they are embarrassed when these sort of incidents occur and a community is targeted.

If more and more muslims come out speak like you, then perhaps, a different perspective to the 'Jihad' might spread out. But now, I think the preachings on "oxford meaning of jihad" have been more powerful.

Anonymous said...

I am a muslim , i am an Indian and i am Human... hmm but you know what thats not how i see myself as ..its exactly the opposite way .. what matters most to me is that i am Human..The amount of hatred here is very obvious.. Many of us here are exactly like the "terrorist psychopaths".. Though you might not actually go to an exetent of killing a muslim .. but i am sure you would have no sympathies for the many killed in lebanon/palestine..

Its the same ,the hatred for a few of them has somehow changed to a "war against the west" similarly the hate for the terrorists has been misdirected at the whole community.. Dont u think its unfair to judge me based on some psychopaths action who just practices the religion.

Why is that there has to be labelling .. why cant i be just me .. why do i have to be hated cause i am a muslim or because i am an indian.

@tantor .. you say you started hating us (muslims)after 9/11. I have family in new york .. dont u think i was as worried.. dont u think i hate the guys equally.. U say that the liberal muslims are few and you dont see any condemnation. But I ask you , how exactly would it make a difference . Do u think my condemnation would make a difference of any sort to a psychopath who doesnt have have even an iota of sense left. You think my condemnation of the actions would be of more importnace than his/her own parents advice. I am sure atleast in most cases the own parents aren't aware of their own kids mindsets . Its is the case of being lead by so called "saviours of islam".. whose actions have only lead to making lives of all "liberal muslim"... hey why am i calling myself that i am a "muslim" the others a radicals/psycopaths wouldnt even call them humans leave only muslims....

libertarian said...

cognizer: If more and more muslims come out speak like you, then perhaps, a different perspective to the 'Jihad' might spread out.

I don't think so. Forget the charm offensives. Instead make highly visible legal keema of these morons. These idiots even give terrorists a bad name. Let's discourage the wannabes so we can focus on the real a$$holes - the ones who won't go away if you shout "Boo".

Anonymous said...

The only good muslim is a dead one.

Anonymous said...

"And on the same note I urge you to condemn the thousands of innocent civilians being killed in Iraq and Lebanon. If Americans, condemn these acts, just as you ask me to condemn terrorism, most ill-will could be removed."

Um, yeah. As an American I do condemn the American and Israeli soldiers who try to blend into the population until they can catch civilians unaware, then violently murder as many as possible. But, oh wait, they don't do that, do they? So not EXACTLY equivalent, but oh well. Don't strain yourself too much condemning terrorism, lalbadshah. I'm not apologizing for anything American troops have done because I'm proud of the job they're doing in such difficult conditions and with such restraint. Are you telling me that you really think that Americans are over there terrorizing innocent Iraqis? I guess ill-will can't be removed until we equate honorable soldiers with terrorists. So much for peace, love, and understanding...

Anonymous said...

@lalbadshah:
"And on the same note I urge you to condemn the thousands of innocent civilians being killed in Iraq and Lebanon. If Americans, condemn these acts, just as you ask me to condemn terrorism, most ill-will could be removed."

Lalbadhshah, which innocent people are you talking about? Those idiots are killing each other - shia vs. sunni. I'd be super happy, like the rest of the non-muslim population of the world, if the shias killed all the sunnis of the world, and the sunnis killed all the shias of the world - the world's biggest problem would be solved.

Whether you agree or not, the fact of the matter is that Islam is a fucked-up religion that teaches violence, intolerance, and hate towards one and all. It is fundamentally flawed in glorifying and justifying killings of innocent people. Muslim maulanas/imams issue fatwas at the drop of a hat. You kill someone and you get 40 or more virgins in heaven! What kind of shit is that? Are women just objects of desire in the eyes of Mohammad? Are they not human beings? Look at the plight of women in the entire Muslim world - they don't have even half as many rights as men. I'd say pretty much all muslims are terrorists - some active, most passive, and only a very small minority is good folks. Why don't muslims focus on education, business, arts, etc. like the rest of the world and live in peace? So, before any muslim tells anyone else to condemn the killings in Iraq or elsewhere, they should look inside themselves.

libertarian said...

anonymous: I'd be super happy, like the rest of the non-muslim population of the world, if the shias killed all the sunnis of the world, and the sunnis killed all the shias of the world - the world's biggest problem would be solved.

Dude/dudette - sit down before you hurt yourself.

Anonymous said...

hey, your blog got a fleeting shot on NDTV 24X7, and on CNN-IBN, too.

Anonymous said...

Al the Pal ....
Good one :)
I don't agree with everything that has been said may be what is real jihad and what people do in the name of jihad is not the same i guess....other wise people would not have got involved in such a big mess. But any time these phirangs are Big time Hippocrates.

Unknown said...

Hi,
i'm a devote muslim from india. I totally feel shame and angered by the guys who carried out terrorist attacks in scotland.
one must understand in islam that war against women and children is strictly prohibited . we must not wage war against innocents.
You all must understand that osama or these terrorists aren't the representatives of islam and we don't share their views. for us the only leader is our prophet and he preached love and neighbourhood not hatred.
even in quran its written that we must respect other religions.
will you blame a car for the accident when the driver is drunk?
i'm a software engineer in india and now prospects of visiting in the west looks bleak because of these dumb f**k*rs. These guys don't belong to islam and it's an unpardanoble sin to commit suicide in islam.
so please don't blame the relegion for what these mad fellows did.

The Comic Project said...

It hurts that an Indian was involved but the Jihad brand of terrorism has crossed borders too long ago to be labeled as Indian or Pakistani or Saudi. The hatred is unbelievable and irrational - the same irrational behavior that drives a Shiv Sena/Bajrang Dal/VHP. it beats all logic and it cannot be called emotional either. And to your question "what were you thinking" - my question is "are they even capable of thought?"

I was reading about the Haneef episode in Australia and my immediate thought was - there goes his visa and all hopes of ever going to another western country. But what I didn't realize was that the same will be generalized and applied to every muslim.

The sad part is how our Government has handled the issue, playing safe. While there is no doubt about the Glasgow a**h***s, the guy in Australia was measured by the same standards.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why some people didn't like your post. You made perfect sense to me! Actually, you rant quite well... you should do it more often :)

Nitin said...

Hey Al, this is Bhatta from ur college days. Knew about ur blog for some time but hadn't come across this particular post. Well written and you've spoken ur mind there. Hope sense prevails...